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[00:00:00] [00:00:00] Floyd: [00:01:00] all of these indictments, all of this, Legal attack from the, the Department of one purpose. It has nothing to do with, with trying to hold Donald Trump accountable crimes. It has a, has to do about them trying to claim that he is some kind of a, an insurrectionist they’re trying to just keep him completely off the ballot because they know that want his kind of populist revolution and, uh, and they want. [00:01:33] Floyd: To break the power of this, uh, deep state or elite state or, um, whatever you want to call it, that, uh, has been running our country from the fbi, the Pentagon, and the Justice Department. [00:01:49] [00:02:00] Floyd brown is no stranger to this podcast. He’s making a return. He is. Always an interesting conversation. It’s the founder of the Western journal. He’s written a new book called counterpunch. We’ll talk about the book, tell you how you can get it for free and talk about all. Of the things that are happening. [00:02:27] In the last week [00:02:28] Justin: It’s never a dull moment. Often say it’s like drinking from a fire hose, but today it feels like, uh, and a lot lately, we’ve got our mouth right on the hydrant. So no shortage of things to talk about today. How [00:02:43] Floyd: are you? I am doing exceptional, but uh, you know, we are. [00:02:49] Floyd: Very dangerous situation. We have a, as an incompetent as present. We really don’t know who’s running White House. It, it [00:03:00] could be Barack Obama. It could be one of the people around Barack Obama. We know Joe Biden’s probably not run see right now. And we face a, uh, a potential coup in in Russia. Um, You know, it could be much about nothing or situation because, uh, the truth is, is that who Vladimir Putin in Russia will be more difficult for the West to deal with than Vladimir Putin was. [00:03:34] Floyd: And if VLA is removed, we have nowhere to look to blame than directly at ourselves. So, um, I don’t know, uh, what, um, uh, more to say about that. We have Destabilized Central, um, we’ve actively destabilized it now. We’ve spent, uh, multiple billions and billions of [00:04:00] dollars destabilizing central Europe. Uh, at no point during this, um, war. [00:04:07] Floyd: Have we attempted to what past leaders have done and that is achieved some kind of a peace or a cease at least stop the killing. I mean, most people don’t realize this, but there have, uh, been hundreds of thousands of people die, not tens, hundreds. Yeah. And um, we don’t even really. We know the full toll on Ukraine, but what we do know is it was needless killing. [00:04:38] Floyd: Uh, Russia did not want NATO nestled right up against its borders. They don’t want the European Union nestled right up against their borders. We gave them him security guaranteed. The time the Berlin Wall fell and we told we were not going to nato. Up [00:05:00] against their borders. Well, essentially did that by bringing all three of the Balkan states into NATO and bringing Poland into the nato. [00:05:09] Floyd: But they still had the buffer of Belarus, Ukraine. Uh, I mean, we’ve even brought Romania, ato. And so the, the, the truth is, is that, uh, it was very threatening for us to have this kind of strategic relationship. Relationship with Ukraine and, um, it’s, uh, you know, you know, China taking over Mexico or, uh, uh, you know, Russia over Canada, something you just don’t want to allow to happen. [00:05:46] Floyd: You, you want to have, uh, somewhat of, of a buffer. And we had poor buffer. So we are bra our word. We’re not living by the strategic [00:06:00] guarantee we gave. And so a shame on us, if Putin goes down, Russia’s gonna be much more difficult to work with. I don’t see, you know, democracy breaking out all over the world. [00:06:12] Floyd: Like, uh, the NeoCon seemed to think, I mean, look at, we marched through the Middle East and all we left was death and destruction. So it’s, uh, it’s a, it is a very difficult situation and one that, um, doesn’t, uh, doesn’t do America any strategic benefit, in my opinion. So, Yeah, you, [00:06:35] Justin: you know, couple of things that you mentioned and I watched this Saturday unfold. [00:06:39] Justin: I think I started watching around 11 and I had to drop my wife and the kids off for like a baby shower that they went to with the family. And by four, when I picked them up, it was all wrapped up. And I thought, man, isn’t that interesting? It was just very wild as I watch the coverage of it, um, Part of me thinks that [00:07:00] lots of folks here in the media were hoping that they could, uh, maybe keep this thing going. [00:07:05] Justin: They were cheering it on and keep it going as long as they could, uh, because it takes all the eyes off of what’s really happening in this country. And part of that story is this corruption in, in the White House right now. But one of the things I could not, and we’ll talk about that here in a second, one of the things I could not stop thinking about was. [00:07:24] Justin: Well, if you do have a coup in Russia or somebody else takes over, there’s, there’s a, we gotta get, first of all, we’re gonna get to see what a real insurrection looks like. That’s number one. And then number two, all those nuclear weapons who is in charge and controls all of those new nuclear weapons and what happens to that threat? [00:07:41] Justin: And I couldn’t, I just could not. I couldn’t believe what I was seeing with some of the, uh, foaming, uh, uh, mouth media mainstream folks. Just, I mean, they, they were like dancing. They were giddy. [00:07:58] Floyd: Uh, and it, it shows how [00:08:00] disbar from the reality of nuclear weapons, it’s as if we, we don’t, you know, seem to understand, you know, He could literally, as a nation evaporated in a matter of minutes. Uh, it, uh, the Soviet Union had, um, the largest nuclear arsenal when, uh, they broke up. And so today Russia still has that armament and it’s extremely dangerous. [00:08:37] Floyd: I, you know, I don’t know if we have any capabilities to defend. Again, we, we may have some that we don’t know. They might be secret capabilities. I know that, uh, the left ridiculed President Reagan, when he pushed for Star Wars. Which was, uh, a take down, [00:09:00] uh, nuclear as soon launched. Uh, I don’t believe we have an operational. [00:09:07] Floyd: Maybe we, maybe we do. Um, but uh, I think it’s improbable that we do whatever. Uh, you know, whenever you have a a, a tree that’s that powerful, you. Don’t mistreat them, and we have not treated them according to legitimate international law. I mean, we, we, we, we, we have, um, uh, in Ukraine, we launched a coup there. [00:09:41] Floyd: And so the, the current government of Ukraine is, Was was, was initially not elected. It was the result of, of a coup. And uh, it was a pro Waco, but it was a coup nonetheless. And uh, you know, I just don’t [00:10:00] think if we are around the globe and talk about self-determination. That we should be trying to manipulate the self-determination of these other countries. [00:10:11] Floyd: I mean, we want everyone, I believe, to move towards a more peaceful, more just society. And, uh, you know, I’m fully in supportive, but, uh, I don’t think by blowing things up and systematically killing thousands of people, you get us any closer to a more just society. [00:10:35] Justin: Yeah, and I th I think, you know, people ask me about this and they’ll say, Saul, are you, do you, are you, are you pro Putin? [00:10:41] Justin: Let’s say, no, I’m not. I’m not. Uh, you look at these situations, what you’re, what people failed to, to realize is that there’re real live people you just mentioned, and these are big numbers, but let’s say e every one of these people, these numbers, Is an individual and there are families. And so the people you’ve [00:11:00] mentioned, hundreds of thousands that have died here. [00:11:01] Justin: We don’t know the, the full toll so far, but there are real life people that are hurting in Ukraine, real life, people that are hurting in Russia and uh, and that are con continued to gonna be, uh, at, at unfortunately, uh, threatened because of all this. And this is horrific to think about. Um, One of the things I gotta ask you about too is, as you just mentioned, uh, this is because of, of the policies of, of, uh, this administration. [00:11:32] Justin: Uh, we have seen the, the coup that originally took place, uh, in Ukraine. What we, what we were able to do there. That’s all been documented now, the United States government, what’s, what’s taken place behind the scenes, uh, on that. But, uh, Floyd, the other piece of this. Uh, as I look at it is, what, what did we do in Russia? [00:11:53] Justin: There’s, now I’m just put some, I don’t know for a fact what happened. I’m just put some headlines out there that kind of got, [00:12:00] oh, this sort of got lost last week, but we heard that Pentagon, speaking of loss, lost about 6.2 billion and then all of a sudden there’s this coup that happens out of now. Now these are, these are separate stories, but they may not be so separate. [00:12:16] Justin: What do you think [00:12:17] Floyd: happened? How do you lose a billion? I mean, [00:12:23] Justin: I was kind of hoping that it’s not, it’s not, it’s not. It’s, it’s not possible. Next time they do that, I hope a couple of zeroes end up in my account. That’s all I’m saying. [00:12:34] Floyd: Uh, it just shows you the level of corruption though. Mm-hmm. You know, they require, government poll requires publicly traded companies to be audited every by outside audit. [00:12:49] Floyd: ERs who come in and look at how the money is spent in those companies. And lo and behold, we don’t hold the government to the same level of that we [00:13:00] hold private companies. It’s outrageous. We should be holding government to a higher standard of transparency, a higher of, uh, you know, insider dealing and, uh, yet, uh, our, our, our government. [00:13:16] Floyd: Can’t account for money. The Pentagon can’t account for money. Uh, it’s, uh, it, it is just outrageous. Out. Outrageous. And, um, absolutely. Uh, you know, there’s a transparency. I write about this in my book Counterpart. Uh, there are international organizations. That look at transparency of different nations. And I think that, um, now according to, uh, organizations called Transparency International, we are like 21st in the world. [00:13:53] Floyd: We’re not in the top 10 of the most transparent, honest countries have. [00:14:00] Yeah. Uh, we have just slipped into shit. And America was always special because we didn’t have that kind of corruption. Right. So it, it’s, uh, it’s really, uh, very, very disheartening. Mm-hmm. And, uh, people are stealing money. We used to think when I, when I was growing up, it might happen in Latin America or it might happen Asia somewhere, or, uh, you know, Subcontinent of Africa, uh, then, you know, there’s corruption there. [00:14:37] Floyd: No, there’s corruption here in the United States of America and it’s got to stop Yeah. Responsible for it because we’re [00:14:43] Justin: allowing it. That’s true. Uh, Floyd Brown. Uh, our guest today, counterpunch, is the book, in fact, uh, Western Journal was looking at, uh, some of the, uh, details online today and was one really interesting story. [00:14:58] Justin: I saw [00:15:00] Floyd and I thought it’s right on the front page right now. Biden’s got a big problem in early primary state. This shows this line, this, this huge line for folks to get in to meet R F K and I. I’ll tell you, Adam, don’t ask you your thoughts on, uh, R F K. I am intrigued. I don’t agree with him on, uh, a lot of things I, I certainly did on the, uh, on the policy when it comes to, uh, COVID, but, uh, and his opposition to that. [00:15:28] Justin: But, you know, this video is really wild to watch how many people were lined up there and, uh, you know, I don’t know if they’ll let him get a chance. To get into that conversation. There’s also a lot of talk right now about whether or not Biden might be, well, they thought about he might be pushed out because of this corruption and that may leave the door wide open for somebody like a gruesome Newsom outta California, or maybe even our governor here in Michigan, [00:16:00] Whitmer to step in a fresh face to take things over. [00:16:04] Justin: I, I don’t know. We could talk about all of those things, but this is certainly something, I think this shows the pulse of where the American people really are. Whether it’s left or right, there are people that are, are done with the status quo. I think more so than anything else. People want something different. [00:16:21] Justin: You’ve got, uh, you know, president Trump on the right, who is certainly the voice of that, uh, populous movement. Then you’ve got R F K on the left here. What are your, what are your thoughts on what this means about what’s happening in America right now? [00:16:35] Floyd: So, Justin, you’re absolutely right. What is, literally, you are seeing last convulsions of a dying system in the elites that are controlling the nation and they have problems both on the right and, and. [00:16:56] Floyd: I, I, I am very happy about that. [00:17:00] Uh, Robert Kennedy Jr. Is serving a very important purpose right now. He has all of the uni party elites that country in, in, in, because, uh, first of all, he, he, uh, goes right at two of their major. Industrial complex, actually all three. So what holds the uni party together? I call the wealth extraction machine. [00:17:33] Floyd: And there are three, uh, major, uh, sets of companies or what I call industrial complex that fund and keep the union party together. Uh, the first is all the military industrial complex. Complex. The second I would call G news, um, industrial complex. And the [00:18:00] third I would call pharmacology slash healthcare industrial complexes. [00:18:06] Floyd: These three different sectors are what give life and fund the uni party. And, uh, it really came about, uh, as a result of the. Obama’s desire to Obamacare, he cut deals. Uh, uh, the, the, the big drug companies, drug companies, uh, basically form a cartel now that holds health policy in America. And with Obamacare. [00:18:41] Floyd: Our health policy was nationalized for the first time, so we didn’t have any longer freedom of healthcare. Our whole system was socialized, but in order to get it to socialize, they had to pay off the, the, the, the big drug companies. So, um, first, [00:19:00] uh, R F K is. If he’s for anything, he’s for medical freedom. [00:19:06] Floyd: And Americans, after living through this debacle of Covid policy where, uh, there were no less than 40 minted, that’s why I call it the wealth extraction machine. There were 40 billionaires minted as a result of covid policy, and at the same time, hundreds of thousands of small business were completely devastated and destroyed. [00:19:31] Floyd: So you were extreme. Extracting wealth out of the middle into the billionaire class. And that’s why, why we’ve seen this met of the wealth disparity. Yeah. So, uh, um, uh, you know, RFK also goes directly at the military industrial complex, and this, he’s had the courage to talk about his belief that his uncle. [00:19:59] Floyd: And his [00:20:00] father were both murdered by the deep state and that is, uh, something that. Yeah, that’s, that’s, that’s, uh, I mean, there are some excellent, excellent, uh, quotes in this Joe Rogan interview. If you watched any of that. Yeah. Was, was like a three hour interview. Um, maybe sometime I can have a three hour interview with you. [00:20:25] Floyd: I, I just interview by. By the time I get to 45 minutes, I’m starting to, to, to, uh, peter out. But, uh, uh, the truth is, is that, um, uh, there’s real evidence that, uh, the Kennedy’s may have been killed. First of all, uh, John F. Kennedy did not want to go into Vietnam. Uh mm-hmm. He had great questions about our, our so-called invasion of. [00:20:56] Floyd: Uh, Cuba and, uh, both of us ended up [00:21:00] being the huge black eye for, uh, the military industrial. Now they made lots of money off of Vietnam. A lot of Americans died. So that money and, uh, that’s, uh, uh, that’s, that’s, you know, that’s this whole perpetual war machine renewed if they’re, if we’re at war. Hard to keep us at war, and that’s why Ukraine has been so important agenda, because literally we’ve been sending all of our current weapons over to Ukraine, giving them to Ukraine so that they, they can be replaced here big, um, in, you know, national, uh, military, industrial companies. [00:21:47] Floyd: So you have that. Uh, and then, um, The, uh, uh, and, and then the health complex. He’s, he’s, he stands really strong on that. And then [00:22:00] media, you know, he has, uh, been highly censored by big tech. Yeah. He has, uh, you know, he, I think he kicked off of you. I think he was, you know, banished by Facebook and all of these, um, big media companies have been extremely frightened of his to speak truth to war. [00:22:21] Floyd: So I, I am, you know, really excited about his, I’m excited to find somebody in the Democratic party who’s not part of the war machine. Mm. Uh, given Pentagon and the war meeting anything and everything they want. And first of all, this is not about, the troops always do on the right. They say, well, you don’t. [00:22:43] Floyd: Support the troops. No, it’s a difference. It’s different. Uh, we should be strong, but we should be strong for the purpose of not fighting. And Right. Uh, uh, you know, these adventures, these foreigners abroad, we troops all over [00:23:00] the globe, uh, and we can’t even defend our southern border. America’s foreign policy has spun for the purpose. [00:23:09] Floyd: Of creating profits for a small little elite, and that’s why these wealth disparities. Disparities are growing. So, uh, I, I really, Robert F. Kennedy Junior Campaign, I, I think it’s great that people want to see him. Uh, I think it’s also, you know, the on on the left, just compare that to the Biden rallies that he, he had in uh, 20 where what I think his biggest one was, people. [00:23:40] Floyd: Yeah. Uh, I mean it’s maybe Jeep, remember the Jeep had those Jeep out there, right? And, uh, the truth is this is more compared to, um, Donald Trump, and it’s one of the reasons why we know Donald Trump won the 2020 [00:24:00] election. Yeah, it, uh, uh, it was because of the energy and the about. Uh, his MAGA policies. Yeah. [00:24:10] Floyd: Uh, I, I, I, I, I am prayerful that this is, whether it’s, you know, Robert F. Kennedy challenging them from left or Donald Trump challenging them from the right. The goal in my mind, break the power of this class of. Call the uni party running the country now since the sixties and, and it’s, it’s extremely dangerous. [00:24:46] Justin: Floyd, what are you, uh, what are the odds? People ask this, and, and I, so I have to ask you, but what are the odds that, uh, Trump and Kennedy would team up. [00:24:58] Floyd: Wow. Wouldn’t that be [00:25:00] wild? That would, uh, uh, I don’t know if that’s possible because of the rules in the process [00:25:12] Floyd: now. Uh, y you know, right now to try and keep Donald Trump from even having a chance to get on the ballot. Yeah. I mean the, all of these indictments, all of this, uh, Legal attack from the, the Department of one purpose. It has nothing to do with, with trying to hold Donald Trump accountable crimes. It has a, has to do about them trying to claim that he is some kind of a, an insurrectionist that they can somehow get their hooks in him to keep him valid, uh, based on some statutes that really come from. [00:25:54] Floyd: Civil war when they wanted to, to keep, uh, a confederacy from, [00:26:00] you know, winning election, uh, in the United States. And that’s, that’s really what they’re trying to do. They’re trying to just keep him completely off the ballot because, because they know that want his kind of populist revolution and, uh, and they want. [00:26:19] Floyd: To break the power of this, uh, deep state or elite state or, um, whatever you want to call it, that, uh, has been running our country from the fbi, the Pentagon, and the Justice Department. Yeah. We’ve [00:26:37] Justin: seen people are fighting back. They are standing up in a lot of ways. I know you talk about this in your book, counterpunch, but I’ll give you a couple of good stories and I don’t know if you’re following what’s happening here in Michigan, but it’s big. [00:26:48] Justin: There’s a, there’s a Chinese Communist party linked company called Goshen, and they wanna put in a Chinese battery plant, uh, here in Michigan, in the heart of, uh, [00:27:00] the state in West Michigan. 500 acres of pure Michigan farmland. They’re going to take Michigan taxpayer dollars and they’re going to pay people that own the farmland currently with the taxpayer money. [00:27:15] Justin: And then we’re just gonna hand it over to Goshen and they’re gonna buy it and own the land. So the Chinese Communist Party will essentially own 500 acres in the middle of pure Michigan, China. And, uh, and, and they’ll be able to do whatever they want to do. So very, folks are very concerned about, oh, here again, China, they’re very concerned about it. [00:27:36] Justin: Uh, not only from the national security standpoint, but also from environmental aspect. Folks on the left have come together saying, well, wait a minute, do we really want all this toxic materials? And the. All the, the lithium and all this other stuff being used here, it’s right near the Muskegon Watershed. [00:27:53] Justin: Uh, this is drinking water for lots of folks in that area, but all of that flows right into the [00:28:00] Great Lakes, right into Lake Michigan. So you got people concerned about that, and then you got other folks saying, Hey, why are we using taxpayer money to give the Chinese Communist Party? This land, people can’t understand it. [00:28:11] Justin: The locals have stood up and they are fighting back and they, you talk about Uni party that we’ve found down who’s who in all of this, but I gotta say couldn’t be more encouraged because the average folks are getting involved and engaged in a way than I haven’t seen in a long time. And they’re winning. [00:28:29] Floyd: Yeah, that’s, uh, that’s talk about Counter Punch is a classic example of it. Uh, you know, the. You just opened up such a big can to talk about because part of this has to do with this whole Green New Deal and that that’s a big, big project of the unit party and really the whole green New Deal, if you distill it down, it’s all about transferring. [00:28:56] Floyd: Bunch of billionaires using Yeah, [00:29:00] subsidies for. Energy, or what they call green energy, which often is anything but green. I mean, that’s what’s so outrageous about. Mm-hmm. You know, if you wanted, if you wanted low carbon energy, then you would be a supporter of nuclear energy because it. Tremendous power density and can generate massive amounts of power load, grade power. [00:29:28] Floyd: It, it, it, you know, it, it, nuclear energy works when the wind isn’t blowing. Nuclear energy works when the sun isn’t shining and mm-hmm. Uh, the physical footprint of nuclear energy is tiny. Compared to, you know, uh, I live out here in Arizona where they’re literally paving the desert over solar panels, thousands of acres of solar panels. [00:29:56] Floyd: Uh, and it’s, it’s frankly, an eyesore. [00:30:00] Uh, they. From outer space, uh, it, it’s covered so many acres and, um, yeah, so the, the, you know, green energy is anything but green and part of it is this push for electric vehicles and they have to create these batteries, which are highly toxic, require all kinds of toxic minerals. [00:30:25] Floyd: The environmentalists right, we don’t need it, the. The, the, uh, combustion engine that essentially is tech. It was developed in Michigan by mm-hmm. Henry Ford and the other great auto companies is a wonderful technology. And, uh, you know, this, this whole notion of electric cars, uh, I is, they don’t work as well. [00:30:53] Floyd: They don’t go as far. And, um, you know, people want electric cars, let them pay the [00:31:00] price. Right now we have to subsidize electric cars cuz nobody could afford them either 60. 60 and $70,000 even with the subsidies. [00:31:10] Justin: Yeah. President Trump was, uh, in Michigan, uh, this weekend actually. Uh, and talking about that particularly, uh, one of the things that I, I think is gonna play well here, Is they don’t really talk about this very loudly, but folks in the unions are not happy with the way things are going. [00:31:30] Justin: With all of this electric vehicle and the subsidies, as you just mentioned, they’re very concerned. They’ll roll back Biden’s ridiculous cafe standards, stop the assault on the internal combustion engine, which is what you do here. He also talked about the electric vehicles. You are heading toward a fall like nobody’s ever seen before. [00:31:52] Justin: And that’s with this crazy policy they have for all electric. But I, I see it with our, our bills here, our electric, our utilities, the [00:32:00] gas, um, we should have, because I noticed it back when President Trump was still in office. It, everything was so, uh, should have been much more affordable. And yet our rates kept going up. [00:32:10] Justin: And I said, why is this? And then I, I understood. Well, they kept pushing. These pet projects, I call ’em wind, solar, and unicorn farts. They kept pushing this. Right. And it should have been, it should have been su it should have been sustainable and affordable injury in energy and, and it was [00:32:29] Floyd: neither, none of it. [00:32:31] Floyd: Yeah. If, if green, they wouldn’t have to subsidize it. But what, what was, we had a group of. Of well placed billionaires that, uh, were able to push this stuff through massive, massive, multi-billion dollar subsidies. Much of that money is being pocketed, by the way. And, uh, it’s, uh, it’s, uh, you know, it comes in the form of credits. [00:32:59] Floyd: You know, actually [00:33:00] El Musk, uh, has been one of the best at, at, at working the whole. System and, uh mm-hmm. Uh, you know, it, it, it, and people don’t realize solar panels, they, they don’t last that long. Uh, and when, when they’re done, there’s, they’re difficult to recycle. You know, the wind energy, the same thing. [00:33:25] Floyd: I mean, when the wind’s not blowing, you just don’t have any energy. So if you. If, if your, if your goal is to end carbon, then you would go with nuclear energy because it takes a tremendous amount of steel to build a wind turbine. And that’s Yes. Steel. You know, they, they have to burn coal to make steel. I mean, metallurgic coal is one of the ingredients that goes into steel. [00:33:53] Floyd: You can’t, you can’t deny it. And, and electric, Right, [00:34:00] and, and electric cars are heavier and require more steel, more copper, uh, you know, you wanna talk about copper? I mean, talk about a toxic mess. We have those out in Arizona. These are massive pits that are miles across huge. Divots in the, uh, in the, uh, in the earth. [00:34:27] Floyd: And, uh, you know, it’s, it’s compared to a little Oh, which, you know, when it, when a oil well’s played out, they move on and you, you don’t even see it with a copper mine’s there forever. So, yeah. Uh, it, it just, it, it is not an, it is not. Mentally, um, friendly policy, uh, in fact our environment to get worse as a result of it. [00:34:55] Floyd: And it’s it. And, uh, so, and a lot of it’s about pushing [00:35:00] money to China too, because Americans will not put up with the kind of industry that is required to, um, you know, move green energy along. I, I, and, uh, you know, China’s gut. Made major, major environmental problems and a lot of it is because of our green energy. [00:35:24] Floyd: Yeah, there’s one of your holes in the ground, so. That, that hole will never get filled up. No. No. And it’ll be, it’ll be there forever. It looks like a nuclear blast hole. Yeah. It, [00:35:36] Justin: it’s a huge crater. And one of the things I think, uh, another that people don’t realize is particularly in the Congo with the cobalt that they’re mining there in that hole process, I know you mentioned China again, but this is another one of those major human rights issues. [00:35:52] Floyd: Right. Children. They have children in those minds. Yes. Yeah. I mean, it’s, it’s full, it’s, it’s absolutely outrageous. And [00:36:00] by the way, the United Auto workers are being hosed in this whole process. That’s why I can’t believe, you know, we’re so, so, you know, behind Biden because he has done nothing for them. [00:36:14] Floyd: Trump, you know, put tariffs on products. Re we wouldn’t even have a steel. Industry in America, if he hadn’t stepped those tariffs on steel, uh, the union families should be lined up right behind Donald Trump, but they’re not because of the woke policies of the leadership of the unions. Yeah. And it’s, uh, and, and you’re right, that’s a great picture of children that are, are being forced into, in essence, In Africa. [00:36:48] Floyd: Yeah, in order so that, that, that we can make Teslas in America. [00:36:53] Justin: Well, we’re too busy talking about pronouns and we’re busy talking about all kinds of, uh, you know, diversity, [00:37:00] equity, inclusion here. All of it’s just a, it’s a circus to take our eyes off. The truth is that this is, this is what the folks on the left support right here, these, these children in Africa, slave labor and these cobalt mines. [00:37:13] Justin: Uh, this is the truth. They don’t want you to see this. They don’t want you to talk about it. I will tell you, um, yeah. This, all of this stuff, very io massive, [00:37:21] Floyd: massive, massive SL slave labor in, uh, China also. Yes. Yeah. With the uighurs where things like Nike’s. Yeah. You know, so we can, so we can make a hundred dollars tennis shoes. [00:37:37] Floyd: Yeah. [00:37:38] Justin: So a lot of this, uh, is w w we, we, we, we probably miss it because we’re constantly being pulled one direction or the other. But I had a conversation last year, uh, it was last summer. It was a guy who’s on a co-op. He’s on the board of an energy co-op here. He’s just one of the folks who lives there and, and, uh, in that area. [00:37:59] Justin: But [00:38:00] he was telling us we are very, uh, concerned because they keep. Turning our, our shutting our coal plants down. And, uh, they were about to lose one. He said, we’re very concerned. We’re, we’re hearing and seeing. And I remember the story on this, that, that, uh, it was the big, I think Midwest organization, the agency that, that sounds the alarm on this. [00:38:20] Justin: But he said, we’re very concerned. We’re gonna see blackouts. Because we just don’t have enough energy to power everything. So this is before everybody starts plugging their Teslas in. We don’t have enough energy right now to run supply, to run what we have, let alone everybody starts plugging all these different cars in and whatnot. [00:38:38] Justin: It’s really going to get, uh, uh, hairy. And we’re going to see. Now, I don’t think people realize this. When you’re, when you see blackouts, when power shuts down, when it goes up, we’re talking about. Serious issues, deaths that will, will occur, people will die. It happened in Texas during the wintertime with that storm, and we get [00:39:00] severe heat. [00:39:00] Justin: We, we just didn’t have enough heat last year because things just didn’t stay hot enough in Michigan. But things may change this year we’re, we’ve seen a little bit of a drought, we’ve seen things a little hotter. Uh, we may see. Some of those blackout issues, but he told me, to your point on nuclear, and they just don’t talk about this stuff. [00:39:17] Justin: It’s very clean. There’s something called modular nuclear, I believe is what he called it, and it’s a smaller plant. You could put these all over and it’s enough to power clean energy, affordable and reliable. But we don’t [00:39:32] Floyd: hear about that. No, uh, we don’t because it doesn’t require the type of subsidies. [00:39:40] Floyd: That are required and energy billionaires, I mean, it’s all about making money. Uh, and it’s, it’s why we’re, we’re, as you know, a corrupt nation is because so many of these policies are pre by the uni party for the specific purpose of [00:40:00] getting specific P dollars. That money is recycled into the political process. [00:40:07] Floyd: Yes. In the form of campaign contributions. And it’s a dirty, dirty system and we hate it. Or America is lost as no. [00:40:19] Justin: Yeah. Corruption is, is uh, [00:40:21] Floyd: is the, and I think Americans, Americans understand it. That’s why Yeah. You see this, you know, boom for, uh, Robert Kennedy Jr. And why Donald Trump, despite, you know, he, his popularity goes up every time. [00:40:37] Floyd: The deep state Indic. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, most of it’s also from baloney. I mean, uh, uh, I was talking to one prosecutor who told me he had never seen photographs in a, in a, in an indictment like that until Trump’s when, you know, you had a bunch of [00:41:00] photographs that were staged. Literally staged by the FBI agents. [00:41:05] Floyd: Uh, and now we learned, um, the last week that the FBI didn’t even wanna do the raid. They were forced by, by the attorney general Right. To do the department. It, it’s, it’s a complete perversion of the American of equal justice justice. [00:41:24] Justin: Abs, it absolutely is. Floyd Brown with us. He is the founder of Western Journal. [00:41:28] Justin: He’s written a book called Counterpunch, and we’ll talk more about those solutions in that book, uh, in just a moment as well. But you’re talking about the corruption. Are we going to see, cuz this is the one thing, I I cover these stories. I often will share them on the radio and I’m on streaming podcasts and all these different ways and people always come and they’re, they’re awake. [00:41:46] Justin: A lot of these folks are very much so wide awake, but they, it comes back to this. Is anything ever gonna really happen? Are we ever really gonna see any real accountability? What is it gonna take to make that [00:42:00] happen? And we’ve got story after story, detail after detail about [00:42:04] Floyd: disruption. Yeah, we got very close. [00:42:09] Floyd: If Don had been reelected, I think we would’ve seen real justice in some of these things. But, um, I was speaking actually with Mike Lindell about a week and a half ago. Ago, and he said to me something, because you know how hard Mike Linde worked for Donald Trump. He said, you know, I’m actually thankful that they stole the election in 2020 because. [00:42:35] Floyd: As a result of that, it’s woken so many people up that when Donald Trump is reelected in, uh, 2024, he is going to have a mandate to finally clean up this uni party deep state and reset the ship of state, right? So we couldn’t have done that in 2020 because it hadn’t all [00:43:00] been exposed, but now we have all seen it. [00:43:03] Floyd: Understand. It. And, uh, that’s why you see these massive lines for Robert, uh, Kennedy Jr. We see this same thing. We all know what’s going on, uh, despite all the media propaganda telling us that it’s not, not going on. [00:43:23] Justin: You’ve been around the block, uh, Floyd, you, you know, a thing or two about these things. How if they stole it in 2020, the question is, how do we stop them from doing it again in 2024? [00:43:37] Justin: Well, [00:43:37] Floyd: I, that, you know, they can steal it on the March margin a little bit. Um, I think they, they ran, ran it about as far as they could, uh, in, in, in 2020. So, And, uh, the truth is, is that I believe that there’s gonna be some contingency, [00:44:00] and that’s why ta talk Be Unlikely Alliance, because I believe that his Spanish are at a tipping point. [00:44:08] Floyd: They’re tired of this, this trans gen, um, uh, propaganda that they’re getting. Reme you have to realize, uh, Immigrants are most likely to be in the public schools. Yeah. Because they can’t afford the private schools. And so as a result of that, their kids are on the front lines of all of this transgender ideology that’s being promoted in the schools. [00:44:38] Floyd: Yeah. Uh, I think they’ve had enough and they’re gonna, their, their voting pattern is going to dramatically change. Black men is another group. Donald Trump did really well amongst black men in 2020. I think he’s gonna do even better. He might even get a majority of them, if you can imagine that and if, and, and [00:45:00] if, if you take that kind of constituency away from the Democratic party, I don’t care how much voter fraud, they’re toast. [00:45:10] Justin: Here is a, uh, just just saw this on Twitter. This is a, uh, an actual headline from The Atlantic. At this weekend’s Pride Parade, a man exposed his genitals to my six year old. She was horrified. Am I raising a bigot? This is the demonic thing that Yeah. That we’re facing right now, Floyd. Uh, they were chanting. [00:45:34] Justin: We’re here, we’re here, and we’re and we’re gonna, and we’re coming for your kids this weekend too. This is, I don’t think people realize what we’re up against. [00:45:44] Floyd: Uh, well, first of all, that, that is a crime when a ma, when a fully adult male exposed to a child. That is a crime. It is a crime state. [00:46:00] Even in California, that’s a crime. [00:46:01] Floyd: Yeah. Okay. Where are the prosecutors? Where are the police? These people get arrested. It is outrageous that they themselves and expose, expose themselves to children. They should be in jail. Uh, this just infuriates me and, uh, they should be locked up for a long time. That is wrong. And it’s criminal. It is a crime in this country, yourself to a child. [00:46:30] Floyd: And, uh, this parent who says, oh, you know, my, my kid was horrified. They should be horrified by seeing that. Yes. Yeah, [00:46:40] Justin: I am. Uh, you, you? Yeah. [00:46:42] Floyd: I’ve just, I’ve just passed over to angry. Okay. Usually I’m just passionate. Okay. Now this is this, but right now I just passed over to anger. [00:46:53] Justin: No, this is righteous though. [00:46:54] Justin: Uh, and, uh, but what, what we need, and in this case, I think it’s, it’s uh, as [00:47:00] you mentioned that Mike said with the 2020 election as disgusting, as horrifying as these things are, these articles and the things that are happening on a daily basis. We almost, almost need this level of thing to happen for people to understand what we’re really up against. [00:47:16] Justin: And look, we wrestle not against flesh and blood. This is a spiritual fight we’re in. I think people need to awaken because good men need to stand up and women, but adults need to stand up and they need to say no to this kind of thing. Because that’s how we got here in the first place. Not enough people actually standing up, being engaged, being involved. [00:47:38] Justin: And I’m not just talking about these parents that are taking their kids to these events, but also like the books that are being pushed down to kids’ Throats and the schools and, and all of the programming and whatnot. People have to, they have to understand, and that’s a, your point of the book Counterpunch is, is a, is a big part. [00:47:56] Justin: They have to understand that, look, God has a plan, but [00:48:00] you’re a part of it. We can’t just sit on the couch and watch the world go by. [00:48:05] Floyd: Yeah. Well, you know, the, the Bible teaches pride comes from, so, um, pride is actually a sin. It is a sin. And yet we, yes we are. Are celebrating it from the highest, their, their hottiness, they’re proud. [00:48:24] Floyd: Mm-hmm. But what are they proud of? They’re proud of their sexual sin. These people are sick. Mm-hmm. Sick. And, um, it, it, it, it, it is being exposed to all of us. But, uh, I, I can tell you that, um, as the. Grandfather of small children, you know, my son and daughter-in-law, they’re, they’re, they’re, they, they are com shielding their children from this reality. [00:48:51] Floyd: And yeah. And, uh, I think that, uh, more and more parents are going to continue to homeschool. They’re gonna do what? Yeah, [00:49:00] they can, they’re gonna form church schools, co-ops. They’re gonna do whatever they can to get their children out from the. The fingers of these monsters are yes monsters when they’re trying to sexualize, you know, 10 year old. [00:49:18] Floyd: That is pure evil. I. [00:49:23] Justin: Yeah, I, I, I, I couldn’t agree more. Uh, we, my wife and I, my dad was a teacher for 40 years. Her grandmother, uh, was a teacher and then she was a principal, and then she was, uh, superintendent, one of the first female here in Michigan. And we’re both looking at each other and looking at the world and saying, now our kids, the oldest is two and a half, but there’s no way we could send them to public school. [00:49:46] Justin: And I don’t even know about private school. I mean, we are watching very closely. And we’re engaged in all of this. And I think a lot of folks, a lot of parents are, [00:49:57] Floyd: and your, your [00:50:00] family members that were, this was a, you know, teachers are wonderful. I mean, I have a lot of teachers in my friend. I have teachers that impacted my life and did so many wonderful things for me. [00:50:15] Floyd: Uh mm-hmm. You know, somehow this. This strange thing of what began Aschen has spun so far out of control that now it’s become sexualizing of, of, of young people. And it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s wrong and it’s got to stop. [00:50:35] Justin: Yeah. On so many different levels. Something else happened this weekend too, and Floyd, I’ll, I’ll just share this with you to see if you have any thoughts on this. [00:50:43] Justin: So this was, uh, an event. I don’t know if you’re familiar with this Patriot Front group. There is a group of folks who go around and they dress up in blue shirts and khaki pants, and they all wear masks. And [00:51:00] anytime I see it, there’s, there’s no way that this group is, uh, is, is, is filled with Patriots whatsoever. [00:51:07] Justin: In fact, it happened over the week. There was a clash between actual patriots. Some folks who pro-America Patriots at the rally there. And, uh, I’ll here I’m, they’ll turn the sound down cuz I don’t know what they’re gonna be yelling, but, uh, this, this happened over the weekend. [00:51:23] Floyd: Yeah, I, I, I saw the video and you definitely wanna turn the sound down because, uh, there’s a lot of profanity in this video. [00:51:31] Floyd: I [00:51:31] Justin: can only imagine. But they, at some point as they start to fight, Didn’t they get, they, they get each other’s, uh, masks. One of the guys gets the mask taken off, and this is the whole thing. There’s a back and forth between these. And, uh, what was revealed is that these people who became unmasked, they sort of cowered away and then they, now the internet did its thing and I don’t know. [00:51:54] Justin: I haven’t looked into the fullness on this to, to find these are allegations, [00:52:00] but they have taken the pictures of these people and they have somehow lined them up with other people who they believe are part of Antifa. So, so that there’s part of this. Then ab Adam Kinzinger is out there saying that he believes these were federal agents. [00:52:16] Justin: So what, what’s really the truth? Who are these people and are we getting a look behind the curtain? [00:52:24] Floyd: We don’t know who they are, but we know they came to cause trouble, number one. Right? Yeah. And our Patriot movement, we don’t have to wear masks because what we do we’re proud of, right? Yeah. And, uh, uh, uh, these people wear these masks and they hide behind these masks. I don’t think we should allow anyone at a Patriot rally that’s wearing. [00:52:52] Floyd: And we should unmask ’em all. And if they wanna wear a mask, they ought to be asked to leave. And what’s really interesting [00:53:00] is, uh, there this one guy, um, you know when he gets deas, his hands on his face? Yes. And he’s basically hiding here. Yeah. He’s coming up here in just a second. That’s watch. Now he puts on his face face cuz he doesn’t want anybody to see who he is. [00:53:17] Floyd: Yeah. And then he puts his coat up over his face. You don’t want anybody to know who he is. So if you are to rally, if, if you’re gonna rally, if you’re gonna be part of a political rally, you ought to be willing to show your face and show who you are. [00:53:35] Justin: Yeah. I, I, I absolutely agree. And I would say that, uh, [00:53:39] Floyd: I, I think the police, the police should arrest anyone. [00:53:43] Floyd: I. Whether they’re Antifa or Patriot, if they come to a rally with a mask, then arrest them. [00:53:52] Justin: Instigators, uh, a lot of, no, no masks allowed. Yeah. A lot of questions about whether these people are paid or not. Who, who’s, [00:54:00] uh, encouraging them to be there, and then again, starting these, these problems. But this is sort of from the playbook, isn’t it? [00:54:07] Justin: I mean, this is, our nation is under attack and it, and it’s, this is one of the things that they do. Uh, Marxists enduring these revolutions, these types of things. They wanna get us fighting with each other in so many different ways. They, [00:54:20] Floyd: uh, but I, they, they want violence. They want violence. I mean, uh, uh, you know, I’m a big fan of, uh, general Michael Flynn, and he’s been traveling the country lately. [00:54:33] Floyd: And what he does everywhere he goes is, He tells people we want notes and uh, that’s because we, I believe that the deep state wants violence because they get violence. Yeah. Then they’re gonna have a reason clamp down and to, you know, declare some kind of a, um, curfew, martial law or what have you. And so they do everything they [00:55:00] can to provoke the right. [00:55:02] Floyd: Into violence. We don’t want violence. Uh, America, we can take back America without violence. I spend a lot of time in my book talking about that and talking frankly about the success that Martin Luther King Jr had for rights movement. Uh, keeping that movement from spinning out of control and, and. Having a violent element to it. [00:55:27] Floyd: And as a result, Americans embraced it and we got real changes against Jim Crow and racism in America. [00:55:35] Justin: Yeah. And we’re, we are going to need that, uh, that determination again, we’re going to need that, uh, that, uh, patience. Um, the diligence. We’ve gotta be careful about all of these things because as you, as you mentioned, they do want to corrupt. [00:55:53] Justin: What, uh, what what we’re trying to do, and I think I tell people lately, uh, especially cuz I feel the same way. I said, your neighbor’s [00:56:00] not your enemy. You go and talk to your neighbor nine times outta 10, you’re gonna agree with him on a lot of things. [00:56:05] Floyd: Well, that’s, that’s. The thesis of my book, counterpunch, you know, I really encourage people to get it. [00:56:12] Floyd: First of all, it deals with all of these false narratives. We’ve been dealing with a few of them today, but they’re, you know, America has been, had, had shoved down their throat, a series of false narratives that are directly the result of this big tech media, industrial complex. They’re, they’re used for propaganda. [00:56:33] Floyd: They’re manipulating people. They’re manipulating. So, First of all, that’s, that’s 0.1. You need to know about these false narratives and how to, how to fight them. But, uh, even more than that, you need to know how to take the country back. And one of the things that I, you gotta get to know your neighbors, everyone, the power that they. [00:56:55] Floyd: They have right around themselves. Yes. [00:57:00] Their communities to impact their school board to impact like this. The, these people in central Michigan that are, are saying, we don’t want this, uh, you know, battery factory here because it’s toxic and it caused problems. And why should the taxpayers pay? So these are all, uh, examples of the counter punch and, uh, counter Punch really starts locally and we take back up. [00:57:29] Floyd: Block by block, street by street, town by Town, county, by County. Counter Punch. There’s worth. 3,100 counties in America, 3000 of them should be conservative counties. Many times they’re not. Literally because the right and Christians and conservatives show up to govern, [00:57:53] Justin: uh, Floyd, we could talk all day. I, uh, I urge people to get the book Counterpunch. [00:57:59] Justin: It is [00:58:00] available, uh, wherever you buy books, Floyd, is there an optimum place for them to go get it for you? [00:58:06] Floyd: Uh, you know, wherever, wherever your books is, great. Amazon is good. Christian book.com for a lot of Christians like to buy their at Western Journal Journal. Um, I’ll give you a, a free copy if you subscribe to Western Journal. [00:58:21] Floyd: It’s, uh, it, it’s available a lot of places and, uh, you know, if you have some, somebody who hasn’t woken up yet, you look, it’s a great gift. It will wait ice. I, it, it’s not a bunch of cliches. It’s very, um, you know, well documented. I wanted people to know the difference between real news and fake news. [00:58:46] Justin: Floyd Brown, always a pleasure, my friend. [00:58:48] Justin: Thank you very much. Thank you for your, your, uh, effort in the fight. And uh, and please keep it up. Come back, share with us again when, uh, we gotta have you back on more often cuz you’re always. So great to talk to and you’re always a wealth of [00:59:00] knowledge and we appreciate that wisdom. Especially we got all the knowledge in the world right now at our fingertips. [00:59:05] Justin: I think we need more of that Wiley and from, from Godly men as well. Thank you, Floyd. [00:59:11] Floyd: It’s always great to be with you. God bless. God bless. [00:59:14] [00:59:14] [00:59:19] [01:00:00] [01:01:00] [01:02:00] [01:03:00] [01:04:00] [01:05:00] [01:06:00] [01:07:00]
